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granville1
ParticipantMore great finds, Blizzi – thanks!
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ParticipantI would have changed the ending a little, where after she kills Merrin, Regan giggles and this sets Karras off. I would have kept the novel’s dialogue:
Karras is on the floor, attempting to revive Merrin – and he fails. As he is looking down at Merrin, shocked and grief-stricken, we hear off-screen Regan saying, “Now put his cock in his hands…”
Karras looks up at Regan, a wild look coming into his eyes.
Camera now on Regan as she grins and raises one hand in a mock-sacramental gesture, explains her previous remark: “… the Last Rites!”
Then we continue, with Karras “uncoiling” in the “you son of a bitch!” attack mode.
I think Blatty’s insulting demonic dialogue works better here than the giggling because it gives Karras a more sharp, intense motivation for attacking Regan.
granville1
ParticipantBlizzi, thanks for the data on Jason’s exact age.. yeah, that would put him in the correct age in the interview as he was in the novel.
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ParticipantI don’t recall that the exact age was mentioned, just that he was in his 40s, and Miller remarked that Karras was in his 40s, whereas Miller was still only in his 30s when he made the film.
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ParticipantWhy thank you, Blizzi, for the nice words. Glad you enjoyed it. Seems the mainstream churches tend to forget Christianity’s source in pneumatics, i.e., the phenomenology of the Spirit vis a vis the believing communities (although this has been preserved in a way in some Pentecostal groups).
Paul centered the Christian life in the Spirit or in the Spirit of Jesus – to be “in” Christ or to be “possessed by” Christ was Paul’s notion of the redeemed life. In fact, for St.Paul, to be “in” Christ resulted in “symmorphon”, i.e., the believer’s union with Christ causing the believer to become “like” Christ.
In a related vein, John’s Gospel has Jesus pray that believers, like him, become “sons” of God, “even as” Jesus and God are related in a father-son dyad.
Anyway, fascinating stuff which at least peripherally impinges on possession, which impinges on The Exorcist…
granville1
ParticipantYeah, the design looks great.
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ParticipantI agree. Robards is the older, aging father with a bad heart – conditions with which the evil Pryce (Mr. Dark) tempts Robards. The bad guys are kind of like spiritual vampires – they suck energy from human pain, and they cause human pain by wickedly granting – in a bleak, unfulfilling way – human desires. As Mr. Dark says, “We butter our plain bread with delicious pain.” Robard’s compassion and wisdom contrast nicely with Pryce’s evil, as you mentioned.
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ParticipantThanks for sharing, Justin.
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ParticipantYeah, if you ever decide to do it, I for one would love to see it.
granville1
ParticipantYeah, Peck looks like he wants to clobber the guy…
granville1
ParticipantI don’t know if they ever did a DVD release on it. It’s an old Touchstone production around the time they did Never Cry Wolf and The Journey of Natty Gann.
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ParticipantExcellent work, both of you guys. I’ll just stay on the sidelines as a happy spectator. I can’t hold a candle to you guys, plus I don’t have a scanner so can’t upload anything.
Re: dinosaurs, ufos and mountains being in the same picture – not deliberately! But if I’m bored and sketching on a piece of scrap paper and doodle say, a flying saucer, and there’s still room on the paper, I’ll sketch in other stuff. Then I toss the whole thing cuz, geez, it’s just junk! Plus when the next time comes up and I draw something, it turns out to be virtually identical with all the other stuff anyway.
I love to watch drawing and painting shows, you know, the little half hour shows that have an artist filling in a canvas within 30 minutes – fascinating to watch, and very relaxing.
granville1
ParticipantBlizzi, I read the story. The descriptions were great, and well suited to a horror story. But I don’t know if I can explain it. The protagonist has “wings… like a bat” and craves human flesh. So is he (she?) a type of vampire? S/he doesn’t drink blood or seem to devour flesh in order to survive, and, if I am reading correctly, is dependent on the metal rings for some of his/her magical prowess… The intention seems to be predation: first isolate and get rid of the weak, saving the strong for last. The strong one, Grizzly, is turned into a new “hollow man” imbued with ghoulish attributes and under control of the bat-creature. That’s all I can come up with. Perhaps keeping the creature’s actual nature vague adds to the creepiness of the story?
granville1
ParticipantBeen years since I saw it, but I thought that Damien’s real mother was in fact the jackal or hyena that the rheumy-eyed priest tells Peck about. The AntiChrist’s cursed birth can take place only thru a subhuman vehicle. In fact Damien in Final Conflict novel makes reference to his birth having “split the jackal’s womb”. Presumably this is a satanic parody of the NT’s virginal conception. The holy spirit “fathered” the Christ by miraculously impregnating a virgin; Satan “fathered” Damien by miraculously impregnating a canine.
I don’t recall if the President adopted Damien. There is no reference to this, as far as I know, in Omen II: Damien, or in The Final Conflict. Damien, because he is president of Thorne Enterprises, and because of his family’s “connections”, is highly placed. But in Final Conflict, he still has to arrange the death of the US Ambassador to Great Britain in order to get closer to the Presidency. He actually has some dialogue with the current president, but nothing there hints that Damien was a former president’s adopted son.
That’s about all I can recall – can’t vouch for much accuracy.
granville1
ParticipantMIKE, have you ever considered doing a tribute to “the Hollywood Jesuses”? Some fine actors have portrayed him, from Max Von Sydow (our own Fr. Merrin) to Jeffrey Hunter, even to Jurgen Prochnow (in the Seventh Sign as the modern, beardless, returning/judging Christ). Each brings a different perspective on Jesus’ looks and bearing. Might be fun for you to draw Jesus “as interpreted” by various actors – it would make a cool portfolio. Just an idea.
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