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fatherbowdern
ParticipantThere’s are small snippets from The FoG of Mercedes McCambridge on this site. Unfortunately, and I have no idea why, McCambridge was cut from The FoG altogether.
Here’s the unedited version (McCambridge appears at the end) here.
fatherbowdern
Participantdsea and howdy, Ben is right and I only led you to a “mini-explanation” of Pazuzu. This explanation really pertained to The Exorcist’s version of Pazuzu with a little more information on the mythological beliefs. I have Ben’s book on its way, so this will be of interest to me on the theological as well.
Why? Think about how Blatty thought to use Pazuzu in his novel! π
Pazuzu is the deity of disease and petulance. The question that arises is the first exorcism with Pazuzu and Father Merrin on the mound in Northern Iraq. I believe it was to protect the world from another plague. Ben?
fatherbowdern
ParticipantBen, this goes back to my earlier posting somewhere on here that I don’t buy into the paintings of Christ or Mother Mary that have blood dribbling from their eyes, yet are professed as “holy events.” I don’t think God would put blood into the eyes of a painting to emphasize that his Son nor his Mother are crying over the status of the world. That’s not “earth shattering;” it’s “earthly works.”
“The only way to determine whether an apparition is a “lying wonders” or a genuine message from God is to compare the apparition with Scripture. If the teachings that are attached to these apparitions are contrary to the Word of God, the apparitions themselves are then Satanic in nature. A study of the teachings of Our Lady Fatima with its “Miracle of the Sun” is a good example.”
While I was raised a Catholic, I was surrounded in the intercity of various beliefs of the Baptist, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Judaism, etc. The people factor of the interpretation of the Word of varies tremendously. Thusly, this fills the voids and creates gaps from religion to religion.
As far as EVP and other far-fetched ideologies, I couldn’t agree more with you.
Thanks for the link I encourage others to read it.
fatherbowdern
ParticipantDouble-entry of the same above.
fatherbowdern
ParticipantTriple-entry of the same above.
October 12, 2008 at 11:59 PM in reply to: The Exorcist Regan Spider-Walk Arrived – A Quick Review! #21198fatherbowdern
Participantπ to drexul!
fatherbowdern
ParticipantGood question, dsea. What do you think it means? I think it’s up for interpretation. Perhaps it’s one of the suffering souls inside of Regan answering Karras with more non-sensible gibberish? What do you think?
fatherbowdern
ParticipantBen, you are so on target.
In a semi-parallel contrast to Anneliese and Regan (or Ronald Hunkeler), is the case in point provided by Blatty in both the novel and script for The Exorcist regarding Regan’s “mental-health condition.” I am referencing the first scene in which we see Regan physically manifested by the demon. The neurologist that accompanies Dr. Klein to the urgent situation at the McNeil household is the one on cue.
Blatty wrote the neurologist’s lines with the attentive detail that would cover all angles of naysayers regarding Regan’s physical and neurological condition(s); i.e., the neurologist is covering the somatic (nervous or neurological system) aspects as he should as a neurologist.
The neurologist’s lines are a solution rather than a hypothesis, which is why Blatty’s material speaks volume about his writing abilities. That entire scene is, “as good as it gets,” in my opinion (along with the Kinderman/Chris “tea party” scene.)
Neurologist to Chris McNeil: “Now I know the temptation would lead to psychiatry. But, any reasonable psychiatrist would exhaust the somatic possibilities first.”
Anneliese Michel, as you refer to in my posting Ben, was a tragedy based on the circumstances in which she lived. We must remember too, that in the 1970s, anti-psychotic medications were being tested more rampantly than ever in medical history. I do not know Anneliese’s psychiatric ailment other than being a paranoid schizophrenic probably being treated with lithium-based medications. Lithium, when used as a form of treatment can cause severe problems when overused and toxicity sets in. This toxicity ranges from the partially benign loss of appetite to the severity of convulsions. Lithium could have been the culprit causing the severe malnutrition and convulsions. However, it was supposedly taken away from her and that leaves “the mystery.”
Ben, when you say, “But I question some of the supernatural events in the case (i.e. the vision of Mary for example as this is not biblical),” what do you mean by your “that is” example? Let me in on the Marian Vision and why it’s not biblical in this sense for Anneliese. I’m unclear in her example. I guess I’m going back in my mind to the children of Our Lady of Fatima.
fatherbowdern
Participantdrexul, you’re very welcome. I finally finagled a couple of programs together to get it to play backward and it’s freaky!
October 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM in reply to: The Exorcist Regan Spider-Walk Arrived – A Quick Review! #21169fatherbowdern
Participantdrexul, I love that word, “snarky!” Consider that I’m going to steal it from you and use it from now on! π
With that one sentence, there was no intention on my part to be “snarky. That reference to the word “period” in that sentence is just that. Friedkin didn’t go on any further (which surprises me). That particular sentence is intended to be read as a part of the whole paragraph where I ended it with a wink. ( π )
Incidentally, although your posting led me to finding this information, it really is meant to be shared with everyone … don’t take it so personally. “Blogging,” like email, can be misinterpreted as “snarky” sometimes when there is no intention of that at all. >>>>>> π
Peace Out!
October 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM in reply to: The Exorcist Regan Spider-Walk Arrived – A Quick Review! #21171fatherbowdern
Participantdsea, whaaaaaaat? “β¦and he thought I liked being ass here!” R U smokin’ weed?
October 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM in reply to: The Exorcist Regan Spider-Walk Arrived – A Quick Review! #21173fatherbowdern
ParticipantOh, dsea, bury the hatchet, will ya? You know I love you more than my luggage >>>>>>>>>>>>>> π π π
fatherbowdern
ParticipantLOL! “uoy ees I” or “I see you!”
October 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM in reply to: I wonder… an anthology of fiction inspired by The Exorcist? #21176fatherbowdern
ParticipantA definite “yes” from me on both counts.
Fr. Bowdern
October 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM in reply to: Why Did Reagan Squirm At The Water If It Wasn’t Holy Water? #21178fatherbowdern
ParticipantTo place doubt in Karras’ mind.
The only mention of the holy water is the conversation between Karras and Chris in which he explains the holy water is really tap water and that is doesn’t support a case for exorcism.
However, we can hear the message being delivered to Karras in reverse English by “all the subordinate demons.”
The actions of the holy water sprinkling (tap water) was necessary for the demon to “invite” Karras into the exorcism and get the ball rolling. While it wasn’t holy water, the demon needed something to act upon to get his message across to Karras.
I believe, like many others, that Pazuzu needed that one last fight with Merrin because Merrin won the initial bout of exorcism in Northern Iraq that “nearly killed him [Merrin].”
Pazuzu seeks revenge and, therefore, all parts of the exorcism are neatly tied to together with the possession of Regan in D.C. where Karras resides. This ultimately leads to bringing Merrin into the clutches of Pazuzu once again and he finishes him off along with the altruistic Karras.
Then, of course, there’s the case of your own beliefs. Did good win over evil? Did evil win over good? π
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