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fatherbowdern
ParticipantAnd, like you Justin, I would love to see all the cutting room floor material with or without sound. Maybe one day!
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantYou're welcome, granville. Hopefully, we will read more of your writings!
I too was raised in a similar Catholic upbringing and The Exorcist certainly created an impact on me.
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantHmmm … I have no clue unless it came from one of the outtakes like the one where we see Regan coming into Chris' den/office. The only picture I remember is a black-and-white though.
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantHmmm … interesting. We lost exchanges between me and granville. That's a shame because it answered questions that I like and said so. Oh, well. Devil's everywhere!
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
Participantgranville1 said:
I was thinking of a real friendship that goes beyond a common interest in amateur film criticism, something that might move from a hobby-based camaraderie to a “best friend” status. In The Exorcist it appears that Kinderman has no real friends – he loves his wife, of course, but “Mrs. K, she gets tired” so he has to go the the movies alone. This idea seems fleshed out a bit more in Legion, where beneath the banter, Fr. Joe Dyer and Det. William Kinderman do seem to have developed the potential Karras-Kinderman friendship into an actual, warm Kinderman-Dyer friendship. It's more now than just going to see films like “It's a Wonderful Life”, it's an ongoing, caring relationship. Of course, then the demon/the Gemini step in and cut it short.
granville, I do enjoy reading your takes on The Exorcist series. Did you write the material under the name “rennyO01”? You certainly have fresh and unique perspectives about Blatty's writings. Do you about other movies/novels as well?
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantI kept wondering how George Carlin was ressurected! This is an excellent commercial!
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
Participantepicwin123 said:
It's great! I love it! What is it made of?
epic, I read one of your blog entries that says you're from PA and then VA. Do you live in both places?
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantI see it in my dreams!!!

Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantAlso, notice the pillow. We know it's the different scene we think it is about Dennings. I haven't checked it out on the BR, but it could have come from the party scene ending, too. It's definitely different.
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
Participantgranville1 said:
In the original novel, Blatty gives the impression that Kinderman indeed is lonely for outside companionship, as you mentioned – outside, adult companionship that ideally would, like Kinderman himself, extol the value of well-made films. This is one reason why he tries to lure Karras and later Dyer to the movies. IDR whether the original novel mentions Julie, Kinderman's daughter, who has some prominence in the Legion novel and screenplay. But Blatty in The Exorcist definitely portrays Kinderman as hungering for intellectual friendship and perhaps something more.
Hmm … interesting take. BTW, what would that “perhaps something more” be if it's more than the “intellectual friendship?”
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantSofia said:
It's so nice to hear from you again, granville!Â
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Hmm.. I have to agree with granville on here, FatherB.
Sof, no need to agree or disagree on this subject … you guys know the novel better than I do. I only based my reply from what you and ugoto… gave reference points to from the novel about the name “Pazuzu.” That made it seem clear that it is what it is.
Actually, I should have paid more attention to what Jagged wrote because he is quoting the author who knows his own material better than any of us:
“I've quoted this here so many times in answer to this question. Here we go again…
“Blatty's words on the subject from his 1974 book “Exorcist From Novel to Film
'”Even in terms of my novel, I have never known the Demon's identity. I strongly doubt that he is Satan; and he is certainly none of the spirits of the dead whose identity he sometimes assumes. If I had to guess I would say he is Pazuzu, the Assyrian demon of the southwest wind. But I'm not really sure. I know only that he's real and powerful and evil and apparently one of many and aligned with whatever is opposed to love.”'
XXXOOO,
FatherB
fatherbowdern
ParticipantAs Father Merrin said, “There is only one.” ugot quoted lines from the novel referring to Pazuzu. Regardless of Blatty's postulations or musings after the fact, the written material speaks for itself. The evidence is clear … the demon is Pazuzu in the novel.
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
Participantspicediver said:
Just a general note for anybody interested in my Exorcist III fanedit.
If you have trouble finding links because of errors trying to register at http://www.digital-fanedits.com or if you can't use http://www.fanedit.info then just PM me and I'll sort you out.
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Spicediver.
spice,
My problems exist from a very slow connection. BTW, the last address is a 404 error. Must be possessed links! 🙂
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantYes … and the nuns were filmed repeatedly until Friedkin got exactly what he wanted. It's in the first documentary on the 25th Anniversary edition. “Holy beads” were a popular presence in the film … and not by accident.
Father Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantThat's a good parallel … but I'm not sure if a Catholic (Chaldean, in particular), would have received a very warm welcome in a Muslin (Islam) square in Northern Iraq. However, I do like finding parallels and Friedkin put enough in the film that I wouldn't be surprised by it.
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