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fatherbowdern
ParticipantHmmm … I guess shitting your pants is quite funny in this context. I don’t believe the priests ever denied Ronald bathroom privileges or ever tied him to a bed (like Regan in The Exorcist).
What is most appealing about the entire Ronald Hunkeler scam is that a wonderful writer by the name of William Peter Blatty expanded from this one account to what we know as a literary masterpiece. He is “our” generation’s Edgar Allen Poe (IMHO).
fatherbowdern
ParticipantHunkeler was not investigated very much at all if you read the diary … in fact he never underwent a serious psychiatric eval.
fatherbowdern
ParticipantPlaying with my avatar again … please indulge me. π
fatherbowdern
ParticipantAgree! I lost respect for the AFI when they ran its series on cinematic Horror films and they pandered to the elitists then. AFI put The Exorcist third regardless of the criteria you mention in your posting. I believe Psycho was number two and Jaws was number one. I’m not saying those films didn’t have greatness to them on several aspects, but The Exorcist delivered on all points and on a much larger scale.
fatherbowdern
ParticipantRatBoy … sorry to be so late in reading your response. I just shit my pants laughing at your first paragraph about Angela! π
I’m missing the “where” part somehow on which site this precious one is administering. What is it? Wikipedia.com? Dear God, if “Legally Blonde” and the “Bionic Woman” can have wikias, I don’t understand this administrator at all.
She is made of shadow rather than substance if she considers these two “film series” and “television productions” to be a highlight of her life!
fatherbowdern
ParticipantI watched the scene and did a slow-mo, but couldn’t find a fog scene to match. It could be digitally enhanced … and one that is well done because I definitely see it too.
fatherbowdern
ParticipantHmmm … good points, dsea. I think the lawn mower thing in the diary is to show his “normalcy.” As far as shitting his pants, he could have done that easily to ensure that the priests would still buy his story. There’s something in the diary that mentions Ronald would break wind often. So, maybe he just tried to fart and shit in his pants.
I think he was very emotionally disturbed and definitely didn’t want to go to school because the diary focuses so much on that factor. Kinda makes sense that most 13-y-o’s would like to get out of school and he did a marvelous job of playing out a religious facade to get his way. π
fatherbowdern
ParticipantBingo etrigan on Larson. If you want to see a “true devil” writhing in his chair, check out Larson’s reactions to questions about his income:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75TsvDIzIZc
Oh, and it’s amazing that he can’t remember if he was (or is!) a millionaire!
fatherbowdern
ParticipantBingo etrigan on Larson. If you want to see a “true devil” writhing in his chair, check out Larson’s reactions to questions about his income:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75TsvDIzIZc
Oh, and it’s amazing that he can’t remember if he was (or is!) a millionaire! Also, it’s nice to know that he thinks that 50% of population is possessed … what a scam! Loser!
fatherbowdern
ParticipantGood use of pointillism … I do see a face (and I still don’t see the “man in the moon”). It looks like a split between Dietz’s Pazuzu on the left and Fr. Karras on the right. Cool find!
fatherbowdern
ParticipantIf you were lucky enough the catch Penn and Teller’s Bullshit program on Showtime, they showed this “exorcist” to an asshole making money for the last 30 years off of the religious zealots compelled to believe what he told them … loser!
fatherbowdern
Participant“The only thing you could consider supernatural in the case was the welts on the boys skin. There is one point in the diary that isnβt played up tto much. The priests actually caught him scratching his own skin.”
Very interesting point that’s been overlooked and I never heard it before.
I’d love to analyze the diary objectively. I think that’s what Thomas B. Allen was supposed to do. However, to me, he only wrote a very shallow-thinking book followed by a 2000 Showtime Cable TV movie with an even crappier screenplay. His “objective” was to make money by having a new and improved and “true” version of The Exorcist. Tsk, tsk. He “ain’t” no Blatty.
Cap, do you know where the diary may be located on the net? Anyone?
fatherbowdern
Participantdsea, I don’t think I could tolerate sitting through Seytan after seeing small snippets of it. Talk about “unGodly!” π
fatherbowdern
ParticipantRyan, very cool find at your University (if only mine would offer these to the students!). I checked Amazon and it’s $35 bucks … let me know if it’s any good.
Fr. Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantGood points, dsea.
I know there is a Ronald Hunkeler that worked for NASA, but are we sure it’s “the” Ronald Hunkeler. I haven’t read anything that confirms this yet. If it is indeed “the” Hunkeler (on the flip side of the coin regarding his intelligence) Hunkeler could have “played out” a long and fake scenario of possession that he got “stuck” in once he was transferred to St. Louis. Of course, because his family was not Catholic, it doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have known about possession from his Ouija-board-wielding aunt that he so loved in St. Louis.
On religious individuals, I’m one and I’ve never tried to confirm my faith by believing in the painting that has St. Mary bleeding “real blood” from her eyes, as an example, is a miracle of faith … it’s as bogus as the Mary figure burned into the piece of toast that sold on eBay for a fortune.
As for the diary, you’re right, we’ll never know if the diary was really burned and it may be in archive. Of course, we’ll never know …
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