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November 16, 2011 at 11:35 PM #13910
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ParticipantDoes anyone out there know where or if there is footage of the Exorcist being inducted into the Horror Hall of Fame which was a show back in the nineties that saluted the horror film?
Also, here is a link to the final part of the 100 scariest movie moments done in Britain…
Our favorite comes in at number two.
November 17, 2011 at 4:37 AM #25844granville1
ParticipantMost enjoyable – thanks for sharing 🙂
November 17, 2011 at 6:52 AM #25846fatherbowdern
ParticipantYes, thanks for sharing this. British audiences certainly have different tastes than American ones.
The Shining was such an incredible book that a lot of filmgoers, like me, anticipated an equally great film. This was especially true because of the medianand studio build-up that the film received prior to its release mainly due in part
to Nicholson’s and Kubrick’s interpretations of King's brilliant novel. It couldn’t be a better dream team.It flopped. Audiences were in tears of laughter. The gimmick of placing the time/day on the screen created pauses of senseless silliness in which viewer's would look at one another in bewilderment … nothing significant happened for the intentional tension-increasing breakaways that never worked. Duvall's screen presence was as thrilling as dirty dishwater. The rotting and naked elderly woman rising from the bath and lunging after Nicholson was a gross-out factor on completely different level. It was like watching your own grandmother in some sick, twisted porn scene.
The “Here's Johnny” line was so infamous from Carson's show that the connection to scariness was lost in translation. Ed McMahon was a far cry from being anything but scary. It's really too bad. Yet Nicholson’s delivery certainly created the highlight of the film and Kubrick's edit was on target.
I do enjoy the film based on certain merits, but to surpass The Exorcist?
In my best British accent, I say: “Rubbish!”
Father Bowdern
November 18, 2011 at 8:27 PM #25847karras13
ParticipantTo say The Shining (which I consider one of the weakest horror movies ever) is scarier than The Exorcist is the biggest load of absurd nonsense I've ever heard. For me it's impossible to have a big name star in a horror movie and expect to be scared.
I'm too aware that the character is a famous international celebrity and cannot possibly allow myself for even the slightest moment to suspend my disbelief and worry about what is happening to them on the screen. In The Shining, every time Jack Nicholson appeared I kept thinking about his other movies and was continually distracted by this. ÂÂ
As much as I like some of the other 99 movies in this programme, I have to say that none of them can come close to the Exorcist. They are entertaining, and frightening to a degree (Blair Witch especially) but ultimately it's like comparing a water pistol to a shotgun: one is fun and will get your attention but the other will seriously mess you up.
And that's what the Exorcist did to so many people.
November 20, 2011 at 8:08 AM #25849Steve Dunlap
ParticipantFrom everything I've understood…the miniseries of “The Shining” was far closer to the novel than the Kubrick film…largely because of the main character's gradual descent into madness…whereas in a 2 hour film like the Kubrick version, you have Jack Nicholson, who really acted as if he was already halfway there anyways.
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I have both versions, and I enjoy them for very different reasons…..Kubrick's “The Shining” is a “right here, right now” scare, whereas the miniseries is much more subtle, and paced. 🙂
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November 20, 2011 at 9:35 AM #25850fatherbowdern
ParticipantSteve,
Stephen King was very unhappy about Kubrick's adaptation. The King mini-series version was a King production from every angle ($25,000,000 production from WB no less).
Of course, the British version of AFI is referring to the Kubrick film … still can't see how it surpassed The Exorcist. Hell, even Psycho or Jaws could have done better.
Father B
November 21, 2011 at 6:56 AM #25851Steve Dunlap
ParticipantOh, yeah, I knew King was very unhappy with the Kubrick adaptation.  It was great that he started taking a much more active role in the adaptations of his novels. 🙂
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And I also cannot see how The Shinging could surpass The Exorcist, but then again, peoples' fears are different…what might scare the bejeezus out of me in The Exorcist might be good for a laugh for someone else, where as something in The Shinging probably gives them the pee-doodles just thinking about it. 🙂
November 21, 2011 at 3:15 PM #25854Jagged
ParticipantThose Channel 4 “100 Greatest” shows are pretty poor representations of public opinion. They tend to only attract votes from 16-20 year olds and definitely do not accurately picture what we Brits really think.
And as for the talking heads they employ to narrate, they are mostly folk no one has ever heard of who could not otherwise get work on TV. They are designed to be made for cheap, last for several hours and go out on a Saturday night which is when we have generally low viewing figures as anyone with a pulse is out enjoying themselves, not sat at home watching cheap crap on TV.
November 21, 2011 at 6:10 PM #25856Sofia
Participant“where as something in The Shinging probably gives them the pee-doodles just thinking about it. :)”
The Grady sisters give me nightmares. I can't even look at them, I have to lower my eyes whenever they appear on screen! It's so unsettling! I love Kubrick's The Shining, it is a work of art imo.Ă‚Â
November 21, 2011 at 9:00 PM #25858epicwin123
ParticipantI like The Shining, never have read the book though. I watched it over Halloween and I got the feeling that Jack Nicholson's character, as Steve D said, was already have way there. Since I never read the book, I always thought his character was like that. I still think it is a good movie, and the “red-rum” part always gives me chills, and the decaying woman in the tub. D;
November 22, 2011 at 4:47 AM #25860Tidy Rat
ParticipantI can't step into a hot bath by the light of the ceiling heater at night without feeling like there's going to be a rotting corpse lying in the tub ready to lunge up at me and grab me as soon as I pull the shower curtain back to get in. I loved the Family Guy take on The Shining:
November 26, 2011 at 8:18 PM #25862fatherbowdern
ParticipantJagged said:
Those Channel 4 “100 Greatest” shows are pretty poor representations of public opinion. They tend to only attract votes from 16-20 year olds and definitely do not accurately picture what we Brits really think.
And as for the talking heads they employ to narrate, they are mostly folk no one has ever heard of who could not otherwise get work on TV. They are designed to be made for cheap, last for several hours and go out on a Saturday night which is when we have generally low viewing figures as anyone with a pulse is out enjoying themselves, not sat at home watching cheap crap on TV.
Thanks, Jagged for the insight. It explains the rationale of the voting system, etc.
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