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January 23, 2011 at 1:20 AM #13765
Seploud
ParticipantI must say that the movie didn't  gave this character justice… I mean, in the novel he is the most interesting character. I like how  mysterious he is, how he acts like a buffoon..clueless…childish but in reality he is 100 steps ahead of everyone and all is just an act. In the movie the first time I saw it I felt that the scenes with the character were completely random and added nothing to the story but now reading the novel all makes sense…like how he took a sample of the paint of regan's sculture to compare it with the one used in the desecrations.
January 23, 2011 at 2:34 AM #24371epicwin123
ParticipantI know how you feel. The movie Kinderman seems bolder then the one in the book. :/ The book one seemed timid, but knew what he was doing.
January 23, 2011 at 3:07 AM #24372Seploud
ParticipantI guess they decided to favour more the theory that Regan was in fact possessed( for commercial purposes) instead of the other theories that the book equally described. That's why they removed some elements from the plot and many scenes with kinderman were not included in the movie. The other explanation    the usual…if they attempt to make a perfect adaptation the run time of the movie could be 4 or 5 hours.
January 23, 2011 at 5:39 AM #24373epicwin123
ParticipantEven in the 3rd movie, Kinderman came off a bit too strong…
January 23, 2011 at 5:43 AM #24374fatherbowdern
ParticipantMakes sense … take a look at who played the part in the EIII.
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January 23, 2011 at 9:07 AM #24375Steve Dunlap
ParticipantGeorge C. Scott was intended to play Kinderman in the original film, but was busy with another great film: “PATTON”.
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Lee J. Cobb pulled Kinderman off very well.  The Schmaltz was with him. 🙂
January 23, 2011 at 7:18 PM #24376fatherbowdern
ParticipantSteve, I hope that's not true. Patton premiered three years prior to The Exorcist and Scott would have had plenty of time to shoot the role of Kinderman beginning in August of 1972. George C. Scott won Best Actor for his role as Patton, but “Refused to accept the nomination and the award, because he did not feel himself to be in any competition with other actors.” Can we say, “egoâ€?
I couldn’t imagine the Kinderman role in the original film without Lee J. Cobb.
Father Bowdern
January 23, 2011 at 9:41 PM #24377Steve Dunlap
ParticipantAh….I could've sworn Patton was released in the same year as The Exorcist.
As far as his refusal to accept an award or nomination because he felt he was not in competition with other actors….well, one can look at that in two ways.
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One could see that as ego, if one interpretted his “not in competition” comment as saying: “I defy competition, because I'm that damned good.”
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Or, in my case, I'd see it as humility. Someone who loves his craft, and does not see himself competing with his fellows because it is an art…and a professional way of playing “make-believe”, especially in concert with his peers.  He may also have the notion that “there is always someone better.”
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Myself, being a musician on Bourbon Street, I hear the following all the time: “You are the best singer we've heard, ever.” Or, “you are the best damn singer on Bourbon Street. What the hell are you doing here, instead of out there making records?”  Or, “dude, you blow everyone away down here!”   I don't see myself as in competition with my fellow singers.  I do sometimes make comparisons, but that's about as far as I go.  I always shy away when someone says: “You're the best!”  I humbly thank them for the kind words, but I always keep this in my mind: “There's always someone better.”  🙂
January 24, 2011 at 12:44 AM #24378Sofia
ParticipantYou're a really nice guy, Steve 🙂 You seem to be so simple and humble…
Off topic,
when will you make more Exorcist Iclone vids? 🙂
I just finished editing the original scene before Regan urinates onto the rug , with The Sims :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqCR_WZPi2Q
 And I miss watching your vids!
January 24, 2011 at 7:18 AM #24380fatherbowdern
ParticipantSteve, it could be either way: ego or humility. However, the rest of the information is, “Frank McCarthy, the film's producer, accepted the award on Scott's behalf at the ceremony, but returned it to the Academy the next day in keeping with Scott's wishes.”
Scott and Brando are the only two actors who have refused to accept the Oscar. If someone really loves their craft, that person should honor the recognition of nomination and/or win. Scott's competitors were no chumps either. They included Melvyn Douglas, James Earl Jones, Jack Nicholson, and Ryan O'Neal.
Turning down the Oscar was just plain stupid and gave no more notoriety to him in his career.
Father Bowdern
January 24, 2011 at 7:34 AM #24382Steve Dunlap
ParticipantSofia, thanks for the kind words.  I'm not sure that I'm “simple”, but I do strive to be “nice” and “humble”. :) BTW, that was another nicely done video.  I left you some nice comments at the YouTube page. 🙂
As for my doing The Exorcist….it may be a while before I get back to it. I've been so engrossed in my Battlestar Galactica project…building props, doing test animations, and such….it's going to be quite an undertaking.Â
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Father Bowdern, while I agree that one should take pride in their work, and accept the honors and accolades bestowed upon them, I don't think it's really a matter of notoriety or anything if they should decide to decline an award. Whatever the matter was, I'm sure it was personal, and it likely gave him personal satisfaction to know that he was indeed honored, but did not feel it necessary.
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Hell, I used to be this way on stage:  When I'd be singing, and within myself realize that I was doing a damn good job, I would always tell myself: “Hang up the pride. Just do your job.”   A lot of times, it did bring me some depression though, to do that. I guess I'd always been superstitious about pride….and pride goeth-ing before a fall. LOL! Â
I had mentioned this to a couple of my fellow musicians…and they'd said: “Dude, no wonder you're so hard on yourself. You don't allow yourself to feel the pleasure of realizing you're doing a good job.  You need to revel in your abilities…without going overboard of course, but there's no shame in a little self-appreciation.”
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So, now I do let myself feel some pride when I do good on-stage….but it is a measured form of pride….keeps me straight that way. 🙂
January 30, 2011 at 5:24 PM #24399Sofia
ParticipantSteve,
I meant 'simple' as a compliment. :=)
I realize that your Battlestar Galactica project takes a lot of your time but I really hope you make more Exorcist vids soon. 😀
I finished editing the original scenes that take place before Chris goes up to the attic. I had Regan watch The Curse of the Cat People (a movie I love) while she's in Chris' bed 🙂 The novel said she was watching TV but Blatty never mentioned what program it was so I thought Curse Cat would fit . :o)
What do you think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFRz1IOa5kU
March 25, 2011 at 7:01 AM #24661RatBoy
ParticipantSteve Dunlap said:
Sofia, thanks for the kind words.  I'm not sure that I'm “simple”, but I do strive to be “nice” and “humble”. :) BTW, that was another nicely done video.  I left you some nice comments at the YouTube page. 🙂
As for my doing The Exorcist….it may be a while before I get back to it. I've been so engrossed in my Battlestar Galactica project…building props, doing test animations, and such….it's going to be quite an undertaking.Â
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Sofia,Steve, Thats some nifty work you've done with with those scenes from the Exorcist novels. What CGI software are you using?
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Steve which version of Galactica is your production based on, the original or GINO?
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