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Like I said,  we all have our believes, and opinions.  It can get a little hairy when we get into discussions of faith and belief.   Especially something as hard core as good and evil, God and demons, But all in all, it is important to listen to others opinons, although it does not change what I feel , it is important ( always important) to have an open mind and open heart.  I have read all many of the criticisms of the Michel exorcism, but like the Doctors explain the Chris McNeil when they suggest an exorcism,  that the subject's belief that they are possessed,(whether valid or not)  is the very thing that may make an exorcism successful.  And if the church can show the things that determine whether to carry out an exorcism  #1- Unnatural strength,  #2- Knowing things that one can not possibly know, and #3- speaking a language they have never been exposed to or studied..  then I say go for it.  It would help to have a M.D. present.     there are many many exorcisms in the Good Book, that I would not question Christ himself of the validity.  but I am sure that is another topic for another time,

 

Later my friends.

 

T.

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I  dont know guys.  we all have our opinions.  If you listen to those Michel tapes,  that is not a young girl.

Ah, but what do I know…  thanks for all the imput guys.  Love this forum by the way..

 

T.

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Granville 1 wr0te-

“On the contrary, most “demons” in Western possession cases – e.g., the “Robby” case that inspired Blatty, or the Anneliese Michel case – have nothing of the supernatural about them. They are simply adolescent thugs – bad-tempered fragments of dissociated personality that have temporarily escaped from the victims' unconscious, not truly supernatural, nonmaterial spirit entities.”

I believe this is up to debate.  Just listen to the Anneliese Michel tapes. No one has the answer.  Safe to say it is beyond human understanding.  When we can not understand it, non believers label it as mental illness, personality disorder.  When non believers ask for proof.  The believers can just point to the faith argument.  There is no right or wrong answer. If something brings us closer to our God ( whichever one that may be) and to a more moral existence then the more power to that thing,  Whether it is a 2 hour hollywood production or following Mother Theresa around for a decade in the bowels of calcutta.  We are all on our own Journey to find our God, and morality. 

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 thanks for the reply.  awesome the different takes and interpetations.  I am going to dive into the book tonight.  I can not wait.

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