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I thought something else would be more fitting for the topic #666 in this particular forum.

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I agree that Exorcist K was more reserved and Legion K was more sarcastic.  I liked the Kinderman character a lot but I'm thinking Kinderman went from a secondary character (original) to a primary character in Legion and being more reserved/non abrasive wouldn't have worked well for the main character. Even though, I think if done right, would have worked .

 

I don't think Kinderman's theological views (constant) would have worked in the film either.

 

I really liked Exorcist 3- I know there are many things I would have changed/added/left out. I would have liked a gentler Kinderman in E3. When it comes to sequels, I just love references and continuation of characters. Having Dyer, Kinderman, other characters still shown or referenced in E3 is what makes it.

I would have liked to see flashbacks in E3 like showing Father Bain dying of fright of Karras rising from the “dead”

Perhaps a flashback off Father Morning with Merrin in the past talking/ and/or working on a dig together.

Some horror scenes worked like the Nurse Keating scene. While others didn't.

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Kinderman does hit Patient X/Sunlight in the novel. He gives him a vicious backhand that draws blood from mouth and nose.

 

Obviously, the film (cinematic) couldn't duplicate Kinderman's constant story telling ramblings like he did in the novel.

 

I would say Kinderman (film) was less about ramblings and more about sarcastic  “one liners”, But he was “comically” abrupt when dealing with other characters in both film and novel.

 

I am guessing the film needed Kinderman to be more on the egde with dialogue.

 

Another point, Kinderman does a lot of thinking in the novel which gives him more depth in how he feels about the situation/other characters. Not much of this was translated in the film.

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I know Paul Morning was added for the film. I might like the analogies to Merrin. However I wished there was more character building with him. I was hoping there was some connection between him and the toriginal exorcism or at least put some side plot tying him into it besides that his hair turned white from an exorcism in the Phillippines. His character just didn't have much substance or enough interaction with other characters in the story.

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The change from shot down by cops compared to the chair… seemed weird. I thought the novel was trying to make a point that the Gemini's body was never found (creating some kind of possibility that he survived perhaps? Creating doubt?  Even though being riddled with bullets and and falling off a bridge seems pretty obvious therefore still baffled why the change. Would the Gemini killer ever let the police capture him alive?

 

Do you think leaving Amfortas character out of the film was a good idea?

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“Blatty exchanged the gentle Cobb-Kinderman for the mean-spirited, aggressive, short-tempered, Pattonesque G.C. Scott. This was not simply due to the fact that Cobb had died and Scott was available: no, the mean Kinderman dialogue (“Go home – talk about Wops; It is NOT in the file”) and acts (breaking Karras'/the Gemini's nose) was deliberately crafted by Blatty specifically for the film. It does not exist in the Legion novel.”

I found Kinderman to be “mean” on the surface but not if you knew him well in the book. Also, didn't Kinderman punch Patient X in the face in the novel?

Sharp-as-a-tack Kinderman, on the trail of a killer who replaced a decapitated boy's head with a Christ statue's head, stands directly in front of the vandalized statue while he waits for an elevator. As if this could get by the real  Kinderman; as if the hospital never reported the vandalism to the police, thereby giving them a hot tip on a hot case.

Totally agree. Was wondering the very same thing.

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I think the point of this was just to give Kinderman some kind of “rational” way of how Patient X knew things.

 

Other points, I think adding the Amfortas character to the film would have given Kinderman/viewers a better insight but it may have been too much for the audience who don't need info overkill. Amfortas comes across in the novel as a “good” character but has demons. Perhaps mentioning his wife cheating on him despite him holding onto his love for her makes you sympathize with his character more. I liked the role of Amfortas but wished a better ending for him or somehow he was more helpful towards the resolution.

 

I felt the book was getting away from the exorcism/demon aspect- the nurse Keating had her organs taken out and replaced by electrical outlets however in the film, its rosary beads.

 

Not too sure why the Gemini killer's body was not found in the book was electrocuted in the film. Why change that detail?

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