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AllBahianGirl
ParticipantIs this video real or someone doing a comedy routine? I used to attend a pentecostal church and this church was convinced that homosexuality what a 'demon'. The minister would try to get gay people to 'pray the gay away'.
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ParticipantI get it. I always pictured Regan down in the basement sculpting phalluses because in the book it mentioned that Regan sometimes spent whole days in the basement by herself until Chris asked Sharon to move her typewriter in the basement to watch Regan. I assumed by the time Sharon moved her typewriter Regan had already finished her “art work”. As for feces on the altar I just assumed she got on the altar about 5 minutes before the elderly priest came in and did her business as I did think the priest noticed it was a steaming pile of manure. I also assume Regan operated in stealth sometimes in the early morning to desecrate the church when everybody else was in bed. She also used Sharon's typewriter now in the basement to type the obscene altar card.
AllBahianGirl
ParticipantSofia thanks for your reply. Also why did the doctors at the Beringer suggest Chris put Regan in a mental institution and what was the doctors diagnosis of Regan's condition?
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ParticipantBut Sofia didn't Kinderman start to suspect Regan especially after he found out that her illness was a mental illness and not a physical one? I remember once him wanting to in the book pound on the McNeil door and ask to see Regan since she was the only member in the McNeil household that he really hadn't seen. I guess with the way Regan looked after being possessed it's a good thing Kinderman didn't see her or he would have closed Burke Dennings' murder with Regan as the culprit. Also another strange aspect to the book I thought was the night of Chris' party when the psychic Mary Jo Perrin suspected something was spiritually wrong with Regan. Mary Jo of course didn't come right out and say anything to Chris but after meeting Regan she was perplexed and brooding and obviously couldn't wait to get out of the McNeil household. I always felt if Mary Jo Perrin thought that Regan might be possessed why didn't she say something to Chris about it?
October 11, 2010 at 1:23 AM in reply to: How Did Detective Kinderman Close Out The Burke Dennings Murder Case? #23459AllBahianGirl
ParticipantOh I get it so Burke Dennings' death was ruled an accident? I read the Exorcist over the years at least 100 times but I must be going into dementia because for the life of me I can't remember a lot of details about the book. I remember when the elderly priest from Ireland approached Father Karras after his mother's death and was telling Father Karras that a psychologist guy that was handling the church desecrations thought that maybe a sick priest might be doing the desecrations. He was trying to figure out if Father Karras had counseled a sick priest or was even the sick priest that the psychologist guy was talking about. It seems that after this elderly priest met with Father Karras,Father Karras was put on “rest”. I always thought that maybe this older priest told some high official in the church that Father Karras was the sick priest doing the desecrations even though one of the desecrations the one in regards to the altar card was done while Father Karras was at his mother's funeral. I often wondered when Regan found the time to make plaster phallases and type up filthy abominations on Sharon's typewriter without being seen.
October 8, 2010 at 3:30 AM in reply to: How Did Detective Kinderman Close Out The Burke Dennings Murder Case? #23415AllBahianGirl
ParticipantFather Karras did save Regan by taking the demon into himself and jumping out of the window because if he hadn't done so Regan would have either ended up dead or in custody because Detective Kinderman was hot on her tail. He had deduced that one of the five people in the McNeil household had killed Burke Dennings and since nobody else panned out in the house the only other person left that he hadn't seen was Regan. When Detective Kinderman found out that her illness was not physical like he thought at first but one of a severe psychological disorder he was really watching Regan's window and the McNeil household and at one point he was thinking of banging on the door of the house and demanding to see Regan.
September 6, 2010 at 7:16 PM in reply to: What Are Your Top 5 Favorites Horror Films of All Time?? #23046AllBahianGirl
ParticipantOh some other movies I would like to add are “Beyond The Door” and “Mausoleum”.
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ParticipantAah I forgot the strap-on for the part of Pazuzu. Maybe I can make one of those phalluses out of plaster like Regan did in The Exorcist and stick it on. I wonder how Regan made those phalluses she used to desecrate the state of Jesus in the church without being caught? It must have been when she was downstairs in the playroom in between making birds for her mother. I wonder where she hid them though until she could leave the house and sneak to the church? I bet Sofia would know the answer to that one.
AllBahianGirl
ParticipantThe Exorcist is playing in a theater in the next town over from where I live Emeryville,California. I would love to see the movie but it plays at 7:00 pm and everybody I know is too scared to see The Exorcist with me. I remember the first time I saw The Exorcist was in 1974. I was living in St.Louis at the time and my Mom took me and some of my friends to the drive-in to see it. I thought the movie scary but what I like about the drive-in is that you don’t have to walk through a darkened theater after the movie is over with. It would be great if fans of The Exorcist could have a cult following like fans of The Rocky Horror Picture Show and dress up like their favorite character from the movie. The only thing about that is that my favorite character in The Exorcist is the demon Pazuzu. Pazuzu would be a difficult character for me because I would have to grow at least another 5 feet,have a behind that sits on top of my wings and be bow-legged and knock-kneed too.
September 5, 2010 at 2:47 PM in reply to: What Are Your Top 5 Favorites Horror Films of All Time?? #23039AllBahianGirl
ParticipantTo Father Bowdern: Father “Rosemary’s Baby” should be under comedy. I just got the movie on DVD and that is one FUNNY movie especially Ruth Gordon playing the part of Minnie Cassevettes.
September 5, 2010 at 2:41 PM in reply to: What Are Your Top 5 Favorites Horror Films of All Time?? #23038AllBahianGirl
ParticipantWell my top five horror films are:
1. The Exorcist
2. Abby (an African American version of The Exorcist)
3. The Gates of Hell
4. The Sentinel
5. Black Sabbath(an Italian made film starring Boris Karloff).AllBahianGirl
ParticipantFather Bowdern as a priest you have seen some cases of persons being possessed haven’t you? I’ve seen a few cases of individuals being possessed when I was in the Catholic church and then later Pentecostal church. I remember over 20 years ago when I was in a Pentecostal church there was a little toddler who was possessed and started talking in this deep heavy voice like Regan did in “The Exorcist”. The pastor of the church cast that demon out and come to find out the boy had been molested by one of the staff at the day care center his mother took him too. I always heard that sex was one of the ways in which demons could be transferred to a human being. Some days I wonder if I really saw what I saw when I think back on the possessions I have witnessed. I’ve tried for years to block the memories from my mind but I know that I did actually see what I saw.
AllBahianGirl
ParticipantWell I think I am going to see The Last Exorcism because I am on disability from my hellish job so now I have some free time. I work with co-workers who are very selfish and all about themselves so my doctor put me on disability and now they have to pick up my slack like I’ve had to pick up theirs for the past ten years. Truly Satan is busy on my job though the co-workers doing the most devilment are supposed to be Christians. There is a movie theater near my house that sells the best popcorn and hotdogs so I go there to see any movie even if its one I don’t particulary like. I just love seeing movies about exorcisms maybe because I grew up in St.Louis attending Catholic schools and being taught under the Jesuits that performed the exorcism on the St.Louis boy Rob Doe. Those exorcists like Father Halloran who died in his 90’s in 2005 had laser sharp minds and they were light years ahead in their thinking. The Jesuit hospital Alexia Brothers where the exorcism of Rob Doe was successful was always an integrated hospital even when segregation was the norm in St.Louis aka “Lou’s”.
August 2, 2010 at 11:07 PM in reply to: Another question about details in two sequences of The Exorcist (1973) #22827AllBahianGirl
ParticipantI know this is off the subject but a question I’m still obsessing about is when did Regan go down to the church and do Number #2 on the altar and what time did she do it. I know when the elderly sacristan came into the chapel in the morning to set up for mass he found a steaming pile of excrement on the altar so Regan must have done it recently. I just can’t figure out how she got out of the house,number 2’d on the altar and got back home all without being seen. This bothers me cause I can’t make sense of that shysty move.
AllBahianGirl
ParticipantWelcome Newbie. Ah it’s great to have another Exorcist fan. I’ve only recently joined this group myself because the Exorcist is one of my fav books and one that I never get tired of reading. I saw the movie for the first time in St.Louis at the age of 13 in 1973. Now that movie didn’t sit well with me for two reasons the first one being that the girl possessed by the devil was the same age as me and second that the movie was based on a true story of an exorcism that took place in my hometown of St.Louis. In 1974 when my Mom,my sister and I moved to California I was overjoyed to be getting away from the devil who I thought was only in St.Louis only to come to California and find more numerous,crafty devils. When I went back to visit St.Louis in 2005 for Thanksgiving at my Mom’s(she recently moved back to St.Charles,MO)there was an 8 page article in the St.Louis Post Dispatch on the history of the house where the possessed boy lived with his aunt and uncle. The house was up for sale because the previous owner had “disappeared” so an investor picked up the property to re-sell it. He didn’t want the history of the house to be disclosed to the public for fear nobody would want to purchase a house that was the site for some of the exorcism that took place in St.Louis in 1949. Actually the possessed boy was from Maryland but his aunt and uncle lived in St.Louis and for whatever reasons the priests in Maryland were either too afraid or too inexperienced to perform the exorcism that the boy needed so the boy was sent to St.Louis so that those good ole St.Louis Jebs who I went to Catholic School with in the 1960′ could perform the exorcism. The Jebs were successful in performing the exorcism though it took months and the St.Louis Post Dispatch article in 2005 had quotes from the last remaining exorcist Father Halloran who was the youngest exorcist on the team and the strongest one being that he ran track at St.Louis University so he was in good physical shape to hold the possessed boy down when he jumped out of that boy to open up a can of whip a*s on the priests.Father Halloran passed away later that year in his 90′s. I had my Mom drive me by the home in the Bel-Nor section of St.Louis a well-kept suburb in North County with big beautiful brick homes and well-maintained trees and HUGE yards. It was fall so folks were out raking their leaves and the street was so pretty filled with yellow and orange leaves. The house itself is a modern two story brick dwelling hard to imagine anything devilish going on in there. We didn’t go inside cause the real estate agent wasn’t with us so we drove by,parked and checked it out from the curb. I wonder if the house ever sold cause it’s a reasonable price,well-maintained house but I guess you’d have to find out why the previous owner “disappeared” before you set foot in it.
Anyhoo I’ve read the book more than I’ve seen the movie though I saw the movie first. The movie stays very true to the novel moreso than other books that have been made into movies but the only thing I wish in the movie is that the directors should have expounded more on the death of Burke Dennings as that was a major part of the book and a precursor to the fact that there was demonic activity about to be unleashed on some unsuspecting folk. The second thing I still couldn’t figure out and get over in the book is the time that Reagan went to the church at night and left a big steaming pile of excrement on the altar for the elderly sacristan to find the next morning when he opened the church for mass. I just want to know how she pulled that one off without being seen walking down the street in her nightgown in the middle of the night and then entering the church to pull that sick stunt. I wonder if there has been any previous threads about that particular desecration cause I was no more good after I read how she desecrated the church in that manner and I sure would have hated to be the elderly sacristan to open up the church doors and find it.
Also I didn’t like how the book ended with Father Karras taking the rap for Burke Denning’s death. After the way Father Karras suffered in his life and the guilt he felt about not being able to take better care of his mother due to the fact that he joined the priesthood I wanted a happy ending for him. I hated the fact that the memory of Father Karras amongst the Jesuits would be one of a sick priest who committed a murder. I know that deep in hi heart Detective Kinderman had to know that Father Karras was not the murderer but he closed the case letting Father Karras take the rap anyway. Father Bowdern can you give insight as to why Father Karras had to take the rap for being the murderer of Burke Dennings when all evidence still pointed to Regan? Did Detective Kinderman just want to close out the case and get on with the business of living or was that done to protect Chris and her thriving career cause if the tabloids were anything then like they are today National Enquirer would have a field day writing a story about a successful actress whose possessed daughter killed Mom’s producer in a way indicative of demonic ritual murder.
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