The Omen (1976)

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  • #17297
    granville1
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    Been years since I saw it, but I thought that Damien’s real mother was in fact the jackal or hyena that the rheumy-eyed priest tells Peck about. The AntiChrist’s cursed birth can take place only thru a subhuman vehicle. In fact Damien in Final Conflict novel makes reference to his birth having “split the jackal’s womb”. Presumably this is a satanic parody of the NT’s virginal conception. The holy spirit “fathered” the Christ by miraculously impregnating a virgin; Satan “fathered” Damien by miraculously impregnating a canine.

    I don’t recall if the President adopted Damien. There is no reference to this, as far as I know, in Omen II: Damien, or in The Final Conflict. Damien, because he is president of Thorne Enterprises, and because of his family’s “connections”, is highly placed. But in Final Conflict, he still has to arrange the death of the US Ambassador to Great Britain in order to get closer to the Presidency. He actually has some dialogue with the current president, but nothing there hints that Damien was a former president’s adopted son.

    That’s about all I can recall – can’t vouch for much accuracy.

    #17307
    Blizzi
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    Thank you. I had the volume too low I think. Between mumbling and screaming, it’s hard to keep up 😉 . I thought that the animal in the grave meant the real mother was still alive… I’ll have to turn it up next time. I completely missed the priest saying it was a jackal. I heard something, but couldn’t make it out. I asked if Damien was addopted by the president because at the end he’s standing with him (and the first lady I guess). I was thinking “maybe a twin…? A ghost? What?”. Probably just being escorted to the funeral of his parents by the president…

    #17309
    granville1
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    Yeah, I think the priest actually called it a dog, but in any case Peck’s reaction was not pretty!

    #17319
    Blizzi
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    Oh, I would have thought he was just being insulting! lol

    #17321
    granville1
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    Yeah, Peck looks like he wants to clobber the guy…

    #19870
    Don
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    Was Damien really born of a jackal?

    Who cares: he’s a son on a bitch any way you look at it.

    😉

    #19888
    Vess
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    – The jackal.
    – Lucifer’s servant, a fallen nun who entered a coven in Ireland and met Spilletto there. “Baylock” was a false name, a pun on her coven nomen B’aalock.
    – A devil’s servant who doubted and turned around while he still could. Along with B’aalock and B’aalam, he was chosen by Spilletto to participate in the June 6th ceremony. His doubts began earlier, but he only broke down and turned after he had been ordered to kill the real Thorn child.
    – A mark of those “born into” the service…
    – He took care of Damien. At the time of the shooting, the adoption was implied; in the sequels, it was changed a little, to complicate things further.

    #12985
    Blizzi
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    I just saw it last night and I have a few questions.

    *SPOILERS*

    So who was Damien’s real mother? Mrs. Baylock? What does Father Brennan have to do with everything? Why does he have 666 on him? At the very end, at the funeral, if they are burying Robert and Cathy (?), has the president adopted Damien? Well, considering how much I’m missing, I liked it! 🙂 So, was the remake any good or should I not get my hopes up? 😛

    #24574
    kokumo
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    Love the Omen, enjoyed the sequels (mostly) and would have even watced the weekly series if it had gotten beyond the pilot that aired on NBC. The remake was competently told but poorly cast. The leads were far too young to carry off the material. What did work was the casting of Mia Farrow as the satanic nanny. It's almost an extention of “Rosemary's Baby”

    #24593
    epicwin123
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    I thought the remake sucked. Just saying.

    #24640
    Justin
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    The Omen remake wasn't completely awful, but it was totally pointless in the same way as the 1998 version of Psycho. Remakes are stupid ideas at the best of times, but if you're just going to do a scene-by-scene copy… what's the point?

    #24647
    epicwin123
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    Justin said:

    The Omen remake wasn't completely awful, but it was totally pointless in the same way as the 1998 version of Psycho. Remakes are stupid ideas at the best of times, but if you're just going to do a scene-by-scene copy… what's the point?


    Exactly.

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