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I can’t say I really like the original, it’s way overrated IMO… but another damn remake? When will someone get an original idea..
Halloween should be left alone! What can Zombie do to this film that wasn’t done anywhere else before? More buckets of gore perhaps? Gimme a break! It’s shit like this that makes it very hard for me to watch “new” horror films of today.
I love Halloween, but I’m sure it could use a little help and be even better – I can’t wait to see this!
For me, Halloween still works. We could possibly say that we know a ‘Laurie Strode’ or that we know someone who kinda resembles her friends.
It’s a possible very real setting and situation. Has it dated? Maybe. The clothing styles of the youths at the time are very 70’s. But the things they do are still happening now. So what Carpenter didn’t overwhelm us with blood and guts. He didn’t need to…. you know why? Because there was a story there. Here is one film that didn’t need gore and cgi to sell it.
The original Halloween is today still spooky in my book, doesn’t need a reimaging (sorry Mr. Zombie and all you other hanks out there looking for a spot in Hollywood by taking the horror route but there are films that shouldn’t be fucked with). It was made right the first time. And it is watched every Halloween night in my house hold. Sorry for the ranting… shit pisses me off thats all. Jeez, what’s next?…. The Exorcist?Interesting…..to say the least, wonder how it will do?…strange that metal rockers are now making movies..Rod Zombie, Marlyn Manson…next thing The Bestie Boy’s will be making a Psychiatric Thriller, lol
I’m interested to see it. I thought House of 1000 Corpses was bad but Devil’s Rejects was decent. Both films I thought had a great visual style but lacked a little when it came to writing.
We talked about this on the jawsmovie.com forum and a lot of people were against the idea. To me, it sounds like the studio had to wait for Moustapha Akkad to die before they could even consider doing a remake. That’s just shameful in my honest opinion. Besides, Halloween is pretty much THE usherer of the slasher genre, so what can else be done to a film whose main strength is its ultimate simplicity?
I think Zombie would add a lot of unnecessary gore and shock tactics that were beautifully unacceptable in Carpenter’s perception of what he felt was a realistic film about a serial killer.
I’m not just a “Halloween” fan, but a John Carpenter fan in general. This is serious sacred ground he’s stepping into, but I have to say, I’m curious. I enjoyed both of Zombie’s first 2 films. I believe he will stick to an old school style with this re-imagining. I trust Rob, only because he is a true fan of the genre.
Hows it going Greg? ORCA 75 here from the Jaws forums.
Rob Zombie is an idiot, and his previous films sucked big-time – they were almost unwatchable!
I don’t understand why horror fanboyz are so gung-ho for Zombie…he’s a hack.
I hated House of 1000 corpses, still haven’t seen the other one (forgot the name lol).. As I said above I can’t say I really like Halloween though, so I kind of look forward to this.
I look forward to it. I’m sure Rob will keep the tension, and it won’t just be a big gorefest. He has Carpenter’s blessings after all – it will be faithful, but without being a shot-for-shot remake.
All the best to you Rob!
Doubt I’ll EVER stop seeing the original though, that film is marvellous.Hi Orca75, welcome to the place “between science and superstitution– a world of darkness.” 🙂
As for this continuing thread, I think this remake craze is becoming tiresome. Practically every film out there now (almost 90%) comes from an older story that was done far better then than it can be now. The best remakes were made under the philosophy that they can offer new/alternate ideas and material that WERE NOT POSSIBLE at the time their originals were made due to the current social climate or technological limits of the time. The best example ironically is John Carpenter’s The Thing remaking Howard Hawks’ production of The Thing from 1951. Carpenter obviously LOVED the original considering he gives the film a cameo in Halloween, but his remake was able to go after Campbell’s original story about an immitator that Hawks’ film could not do because of the limits in makeup effects at the time, but they were able to pull off a good paranoia ‘afraid of Soviets’ theme like Invasion of the Body Snatchers did, so both films are good because they tackle the same story differently.
Don’t know what Zombie is going to do because this story is so simplistic, but one of the best points I’ve heard from the Jaws forum is that you can’t ever outdo Donald Pleasence’s Sam Loomis. He was such a great actor: Blofeld in You Only Live Twice, he was great in The Great Escape, and quite fascinating in George Lucas’ THX 1138. They don’t make them with talent like that anymore.
“I think this remake craze is becoming tiresome. Practically every film out there now (almost 90%) comes from an older story that was done far better then than it can be now.”
Very true. It has been crazy lately, and I don’t see it ending anytime soon. The majority of the films being remade come from the horror genre. Bob Clark’s 1974 horror classic, “Black Christmas” is next. But, Clark himself may be involved, I’m not real sure about that.
“The best remakes were made under the philosophy that they can offer new/alternate ideas and material that WERE NOT POSSIBLE at the time their originals were made due to the current social climate or technological limits of the time. The best example ironically is John Carpenter’s The Thing remaking Howard Hawks’ production of The Thing from 1951. Carpenter obviously LOVED the original considering he gives the film a cameo in Halloween, but his remake was able to go after Campbell’s original story about an immitator that Hawks’ film could not do because of the limits in makeup effects at the time…”
True again. A remake that made sense to do. Cronenberg’s take on “The Fly” was always aces in my book too.
Rob Zombie will have a hard time choosing someone for the Sam Loomis role. Tough shoes to fill. Carpenter knew what a great actor Pleasence was, he would cast him again to play the President of the United States in “Escape From New York”, which I thought he did an excellent job in.
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