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July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18187
Blizzi
ParticipantLMAO 😀
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18241Ryan
ParticipantWe try. 🙂
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18239granville1
ParticipantThanks, Blizzi.
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18212Blizzi
ParticipantWhat dedication, enthusiasm and memory! You guys never cease to amaze me 😀
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18206granville1
ParticipantGlad you could use the stuff, Ryan.
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18201Ryan
ParticipantAdded!
http://www.theninthconfiguration.com/blatty/correspondences/
EDIT: After reading on some more, I just realized that Clelia is not renamed. She is in the novel and Lazlo is a separate character. I fixed the pages.
I need to stop getting so ahead of myself!
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18199Ryan
ParticipantHmmmm… I’m having a little bit of trouble locating it in my paperbacks. I have a Harper & Row copy, and the one with the purple cover. Can you identify the page numbers with one of those books at all?
EDIT: Well, isn’t this remarkable? I just opened my hardcover copy to a random page and the first word I see is “Clelia”. Nevermind. 🙂
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18197Ryan
ParticipantLovely! I’ll add them soon. Much appreciated.
And it’s Victor Laszlo. Blatty omitted the ‘s’ for some reason.
We mustn’t forget Kinderman’s Casablanca dream sequence in Legion where he chats with Bogart!
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18195granville1
ParticipantHey, Ryan, found the other reference… the books were more accessible than I thought!
Jung, Memories, Dreams, Reflections. Vintage Books Edition, Random House, NY, pp. 124-125.
Same story Temple tells in Legion. Except in Legion he asks an old cobbler how shoes used to be sewn, whereas Jung found out by asking his clinic’s head nurse how long the woman had been making the gestures. The nurse told him that the prior head nurse had said that the old lady used to make shoes.
Jung next checked her delapidated records, which, surprisingly, indeed identified the gestures as cobbler’s motions.
At her funeral, Jung asked her brother how she lost her sanity, and the brother told Jung that she had been in love with a shoemaker who rejected her, and from that point, she became dysfunctional.
Jung: “The shoemaker movements indicated an identification with her sweetheart which lasted until her death… Henceforth I devoted all my attention to the meaningful connections in a psychosis.” (p.125)
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18194granville1
ParticipantRyan, found one, looking for the other. This case is cited in The Exorcist itself as Karras is investigating.
Psychology and the Occult. C.G. Jung. Bolligen Series, 1977, Princeton University Press, pp. 55-56.
Jung discusses Myers’ 1885 work, “Automatic Writing”, citing the Clelia personality that emerged in automatic writing done by one “Mr. A”, a member of the Society for Psychical Research.
The emergent personality identifies itself as Clelia, a woman who “will come to life… in six years [in the future].”
Blatty’s cite of the case appears on pp. 325-327 of the Bantam paperback.
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18193granville1
ParticipantRyan, I’ll try to dig out some Jung books to confirm Clelia and the shoe lady.
Also, was there a character in Casablanca named “Lazlo” – Victor Lazlo? If so, that would connect with Kinderman’s love of great films as well as his Casablanca-like friendship with Dyer.
Might take a day or two to get those Jung references but I think I have them around here some place.
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18185Ryan
ParticipantOCD. 😉
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18184Blizzi
ParticipantYou are impressively dedicated, my friend. I admire your efforts.
July 12, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18183Ryan
Participantgranville, can you confirm the Jung connections with the characters, as well as the Lazlo reference? Once they are confirmed I’ll add them to the Correspondences & Themes page.
I just updated these two pages as well, if you scroll to the bottom and hit refresh. Each night I read about 20 more pages of Legion with a pad next to me, and write down anything that needs to be archived on the site:
http://www.theninthconfiguration.com/blatty/correspondences/
http://legion.theninthconfiguration.com/film/inconsistencies/
July 14, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18302Ryan
ParticipantI have printed out the current list-in-progress, and will track down as many as I can. This should make for a very insightful next few months.
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