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July 31, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18610
granville1
Participantcorrection
it bothers me that if Blatty had those two good actors together for that one brief scene, why did he not include a potentially juicy encounter between the two?
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July 31, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18613Blizzi
ParticipantI would go for that. I think it probably wasn’t considered important… Too bad. These datials could have helped. The Devil’s in the details…
August 1, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18616ManInKhakiExorcist
ParticipantIf tough, elderly Scott’s Kinderman managed to rush to the Williamson’s Morning’s aid, putting himself if harm’s way, I could see that happening. Frankly, and even counting his rush back home to save his daughter and family from Nurse X, he doesn’t do much in the way of serving and protecting the public. He spends most of his time, snooping around and asking questions, and barking at colleagues. 😐
M.I.K.E.
August 1, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18617granville1
ParticipantBlizzi, yes, the “details” would have been interesting if fleshed out…
MIKE, I agree… Scott’s Kinderman was not the warm figure that Cobb’s was. Some say that Scott’s Kinderman, hardened by 12 more years’ exposure to savage crimes, became a grouch. However, he was not such in the Legion novel – sometimes gruff, yes, but more in an affectionately teasing manner. Scott’s Kinderman was too much… Patton. I wonder if this was really the interpretation that Blatty wanted for Legion’s Kinderman…
August 1, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18627Blizzi
ParticipantYeah, “fleshed out” was the thing I was trying to think of. 😉 I thought Scott’s Kinderman was too angry… I think I heard that Blatty wanted him for the original though… Cobb was endearing! Okay, he’s a Sagittarius like me, so I’m a little biased, LOL but I really enjoyed him.
August 1, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18639granville1
ParticipantGood info there about Blatty wanting Scott, not Cobb! Yes, Cobb was endearing. I just can’t see Scott saying with Cobb’s conviction – about Chris’s autograph – “I lied! It’s for me!”
Sure, Scott can turn off the toughness, as when he deals with Mrs. Clelia and the old lady who asks if he is her son. But he was abusive to nearly everybody else: “I was signaling beings on Mars – sometimes they answer”; “You’re a racist, Ryan… Go home and talk about…Wops”; “It is NOT in the file! It is NOT!”; “We’re FINE!”, etc.
Cobb never flew off the handle – of course, we always see him solo, never ineracting with his police staff…
August 1, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18640Blizzi
ParticipantDon’t remember where I heard that, so please forgive me if I’m wrong. 😉 Scott was too tough. Maybe Cobb could have handled those lines to my satisfaction. Scott lacked Cobb’s “shmaltz”.
August 1, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18641ManInKhakiExorcist
ParticipantPrecisely, Blizzi, you nailed it! 😛
Granny, but Cobb solo and Kinderman solo are worlds apart, I think. Scotty’s distinctly more on edge and senile.
Ironically, Scott is so uppity it’s hard not to smirk. He’s got his own unique brand of charisma as Kinderman, in or out of the presence of others. Even so, how Blatty calls his casting “perfect” makes me scratch my head. Oh well, not too many older actor out there, then or even today.
Crikey, who should Blatty have cast instead — there was no one cut from the same Cobb, so to speak? 😛 Who in blazes? Hmmm…
M.I.K.E.
August 1, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18642Blizzi
ParticipantOMG, so punny 😛
August 1, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18643ManInKhakiExorcist
ParticipantBE SILENT. 😛
August 2, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18644Blizzi
ParticipantLMAO 😀 It was clever, really. I couldn’t have thought of it!
August 2, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18655Blizzi
ParticipantUhh… Ooops 😛
August 2, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18654ManInKhakiExorcist
ParticipantMonk, or Columbo? 😛
M.I.K.E.
August 2, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18650Blizzi
ParticipantBtw, I read in “self possessed” that Blatty thinks Monk was taken from Kinderman. I haven’t really seen it, but I’m most likely on WPB side, of course.
August 2, 2007 at 11:59 PM #18648granville1
ParticipantKarl Malden might have come close in portraying Kinderman believably – except wasn’t he at that time already in Streets of San Francisco playing a detective…? I believe that Malden, like Kinderman, also wore a hat. If it was pre-“Streets”, he may have been able to pull it off. Post-“Streets” audiences would expect Michael Douglas to be lurking in the wings…
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