[granville1]

No flame, I just think they are different. Legion is “Gloria Laus Tibi, Domine”, and Dominion’s snipped scene is “Veni, Veni Emmanuel” – “O Come, O Come, Emmanuel” the Christmas song. I thought it was a bit inappropriate showing it being taught in the classroom without any other specific Advent or Christmas season.

[ManInKhakiExorcist]

I was just kiddin’ ’bout the flame; I put that in my posts sometimes if I feel I may be off-base somewhat or completely. 😛 CH fans are seldom so silly as to flame; too mature. 🙂

Anyway, I really appreciate, and thank you for, your insight. Good stuff, Granny. How did you know all that? Just curious. I had no clue about either.

Gee, a Christmas song? But are we sure the 1947 portion of the film wasn’t set during Advent or Christmas? Given the colonialism and African culture, if it were set during that time, perhaps Francis’/the Church’s idea was to do SOMETHING. 🙂 Just a thought. I may be totally offbase here, as well. 😛

M.I.K.E.

[granville1]

Thanks for your kind words…

I think from context that we _can_ be sure that the setting is _meant_ to be Advent or Christmas – obviously if Francis is teaching a Christmas tune, the season must be Merry.

However, as I said, the effect at least to me was rather jarring because there were no other Christmas references in the film. When Advent/Christmas music is performed, there are usually ornaments, sacred or secular hanging about, but I didn’t see any clues in that direction – not even what might be construed as African Christmas motifs. The kids’ father is shown in another deleted scene painting a mural, but it, too, seems not to be a Christmas theme…

Maybe Schrader thought that too much Christmas emphasis might be a show-stopper by placing the film too solidly in a particular time of year. Much like Friedkin gives one, and only one, reference to season – Halloween, when trick or treaters run past Burstyn when she’s walking back from the movie location.

Re: how I knew about the music. Just from memory on Legion, there’s a credit given to the “choir boy” song, and I think it is “Laus Tibi Gloria, Domine”, or some combination of those words – Dourif sings it, then it’s repeated during the End Credits.

Re: the Dominion Christmas tune, it’s just a traditional church tune – if I’m not mistaken it wasn’t/isn’t only the RCC that used it, and its Latin lyrics, but some mainstream Protestant churches sometimes did the same – you know, like how the Latin lyrics are sometimes retained in non-Catholic services for the Christmas carol, “O, Come all Ye Faithful” (“Adeste Fidelis”).

[ManInKhakiExorcist]

I don’t have both DVDs handy, but this occurred to me. Maybe not the same song, but similar? I think it’d be a nice tie-in to Legion if it were the same. Creepy, too, no?

Flame away. 😛

M.I.K.E.

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