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April 9, 2013 at 12:40 PM #27219
Beelzebub
Participanthatter76 said:
“Beelzebub, sharing your Opinion is fine…but it would be more POLITE of you not to take the “Guess what” approach to explaining things…to be blunt that's BULLSHIT and you know it, now maybe in your opinion Dominion has no connection…but again that would be BULLSHIT too, If your implying that Merrin himself does not link the 2 movies, then again, I call BULLSHIT, and will call BULLSHITuntil the day I day(perhaps you'll get lucky and God will croak me today)…The suggestion that a Demon would not have a Civilized conversation, is where I call BULLSHIT again. A Demon would in all likelihood do whatever it had to do to accomplish it's mission, manifest itself in any number of ways, project itself as any number of personalities, after all, it is ultimately a desperate entity.”There is no need to be a disrespectful jerk HATTER76. Obviously you need to learn the first RULE of courtesy…it is called RESPECT.1- I do not recall insulting you at any moment. On the contrary I even praise you twice, once for your video and second for Liam Neeson. I even used the word “friend”. If someone says “hello” you say “fuck off”? Grow up kid and get a life.2- I don't recall taking an autocratic tone with you at any moment. You don't tell me what to say and I don't tell you what to say. Understood? Are you an administrator here?3- As long as I don't insult you, I will use my “guess what” approach as long as I want. At least I don't use the “I'm guessing” approach like you.4- If your going to be a “tough guy” how about replying to all of my post. Just to see how ignorant you are.April 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM #27220Beelzebub
Participanthatter76 said:
“I don't have to think about what one link will connect 2 movies, because technically I don't have to do anything.”Which proves you don't know the process required to make a film.“but as far as this particular subject is concerned, my interpretation of what would link the 2 movies together was decided 15 years ago, when this film was rumored to be in the works.”Not quite clear what you mean. Can you please elaborate? Thank you.“But The Exorcist is not about that little head, it does serve a function to the story, but it's not the story.”Wrong. It is a big part of the story. That little head opens a complete new world to explore and is excellent for a prequel. Who is Pazuzu? Where does he come from? What kind of demon is he? How did he get all the way to Washington? How did he possess Regan? Why did he possess Regan? Did Father Merrin already knew the demon? What exactly hapenned between Merrin and Pazuzu? Does Pazuzu seek revenge? Who placed the crucifix under the pillow? Why did Regan throw Burke Dennings out the window? How did the “ouija” board get in the house? How did Father Merrin die? Was it really a heart attack or did Regan/Pazuzu killed him?See, so many questions that NEED to be answered in a prequel or sequel. All these question must always be answered IN THE MOVIE, not in the novel. The novel is never the same as the movie. It's a different world.“I think we both know that your not very accurate in your statement “Dominion” has no connection whatsover with the first “EXCORCIST”. Thus it cannot be called a “prequel”.I am extremely accurate my friend. Can you tell me what connections it has with the original “EXORCIST”? Other than Father Merrin? It is not even Pazuzu in “Dominion”. It is “Lucifer”, not Pazuzu. Lucifer is Satan. Satan is the first angel to have disobeyed and defied God. Satan is not the demon Pazuzu. So the relic behind Cheche is not Pazuzu, it is a representation of the “Devil” himself. Nothing to do with Pazuzu. “Dominion” has no connection with the first “EXORCIST”. Period. It is only in your mind…friend.“If your implying that Merrin himself does not link the 2 movies, then again, I call bullshit, and will call bullshit until the day I day(perhaps you'll get lucky and God will croak me today)”I never said anything of the sort. Stop acting like a 12 year old and pay attention when you read. I said Merrin was the only link. Thats all. Not enough to be called a “PREQUEL”. Thats why it was rejected by the studio.“Now Merrin in general, is not stupid, as an archeologist as well as the other various things on that long list of what he is, he should have some idea of what the Pazuzu head would represent, he should certainly know that it's a demon.”That is your personal interpretation. It is not an asseveration. Even if it was true, then WHY THE HELL PAZUZU YELLED SO LOUD IN THE FIRST EXORCIST WHEN MERRIN ENTERED THE HOUSE? Can you answer that wise guy? And your calling me a “bullshiter”. MERRIN KNEW PAZUZU, AND PAZUZU KNEW HIM! How? Because of that exorcism that Merrin performed years ago in Africa that nearly killed him. THATS WHY. DUH!“The suggestion that a Demon would not have a Civilized conversation, is where I call bullshit again.”It is not a suggestion. It is an asseveration. Obviously you believe that in real life cars immidiately blow up like in the movies. You also believe that Superman can actually fly, and that the shark in “Jaws” is real.What do you know about demons? Have you ever seen a possessed person? Have you ever tried to talk with a demon? Do you know how a “demon” or “evil spirit” resides in a human's body? Perhaps you would be so kind as to teach us. Please do so as I am burning with desire to learn. Name me ONLY ONE PART in the Bible that stipulates that a possessed person has ever engaged in a “smart” conversation. You want to know what a demon does in general, then view the video of poor Anneliese Michel on youtube. THAT…MY FRIEND…IS THE REAL SHIT ALL THE TIME! If a possessed person engages in an open “wise” conversation or has even time to play “Monopoly”, then that means the person is FAKING and all that its trying to do is to steal your money by playing with your mind.And if you still want to use an agressive tone don't bother to reply. I am only interested in chating with civilized persons. Thank you.April 9, 2013 at 2:37 PM #27221ReganMacNeilfan
ParticipantWhat the fuck you two? Fighting like little babies over this. Both of you GROW UP!
April 9, 2013 at 2:41 PM #27222ReganMacNeilfan
ParticipantReganMacNeilfan said:
“Where is Pazuzu in this film Dominion?”
Let me think…uh…got it. Nowhere!
With all the fighting I forgot to thank you. Lol
April 9, 2013 at 2:46 PM #27223ReganMacNeilfan
Participanthatter76 said:
“I like the Africanized version of Pazuzu in Dominion, although I do have my moments where I wish it would have resembled the Iraq version a bit more, I’ve grown to accept it the way it is.”
It is important to be faithful to the first movie, but also reality.
“Pazuzu is often depicted as a combination of diverse animal and human parts. He has the body of a man, the head of a lion or dog, eagle-like taloned feet, two pairs of wings, a scorpion’s tail, and a serpentine penis. He is often depicted with his right hand pointing upward and left hand pointing down.” Reference Wikipedia.
Again, “Dominion” fails in showing us the real Pazuzu and connecting the dots.
Yeah that it does. 🙁
April 9, 2013 at 3:33 PM #27224Beelzebub
ParticipantSorry REGAN for that little outburst. I'll stop now, promise.
April 9, 2013 at 3:36 PM #27225Beelzebub
ParticipantReganMacNeilfan said:
“With all the fighting I forgot to thank you. Lol”
Anytime.
April 9, 2013 at 7:16 PM #27226ReganMacNeilfan
ParticipantSorry REGAN for that little outburst. I’ll stop now, promise.
It’s not you it’s hatter. 🙁
April 9, 2013 at 10:32 PM #27227hatter76
ParticipantLOL.Oh Beelzebub, .I'm not a disrespectful Jerk, in fact I felt like you were being one, and still sound like one, I thought you might be one of those 12 year old kids who don't know what their talking about. you talked to me like I was a 5 year old,the word Bullshit is used in one specific way, and it does not indicate that I would tell someone to fuck off.I suggest you rethink what you said about that, because your very much jumping the gun, in a very provocative fashion, and your the one who is actually coming off as hostile.Calling Bullshit is calling Bullshit, that's all it is.It would be easier to respond to all your posts if you had condensed them into 1,but I must say I had thought you might be more civil than to resort to name calling, I havent called you anything , and I won't.Believe me, I've been a lot more respectful than most of the people online these days, the number 1 thing they are notorious for is name calling, and jumping the Gun.Been years since someone spoke to me online the way you have, but I haven't been very active either, got a lot of health problems these days, and although I've been online, I haven't really participated on forums for quite a while.I was quick to use the word bullshit, and you are clearly making a bigger deal out of that than you need to.now I'm going to write this off as you misunderstanding my post, and taking it the wrong way, and you should seriously consider doing the same, I'm not huffing and puffing, and I'm not going to, if you want to that's fine, but I don't see why you should either.And Regan, I know you didn't say anything ugly to me, but I suggest you take another look at what I said in my post.April 9, 2013 at 10:49 PM #27228granville1
Participanthatter, Beelzebub is a bellicose jerk. Best thing is probably to do what I do – place him on permanent “Ignore” by not reading his garbage and not encouraging him by replying to him – that's like tossing cheese to rats.
I agree, Regan's response is completely baffling. First she agreed that ignoring BeelzeBUTT was the right thing to do, but since then she's been talking to him and now she's blaming you for Beelzebutt's bad behavior, as if you're both to blame, when in reality, all the crass bullshit is coming from Beelzebutt's side.
When I was still talking to Beelzebutt, I politely asked him to confine his replies to one post at a time, instead of flooding the forum with multiple posts. He's continuing on with this psychotic behavior, as you can see. But take heart: Beelzebutt is an intransigent jerk who does not deserve the courtesy of replies. You can cut him off quite easily and not bother yourself with his profound idiocy.
April 9, 2013 at 11:36 PM #27229hatter76
ParticipantGranville you were around in the old days when I was actually active on this site, glad someone around here who knows how to talk like a grown up.And I'll bet you understood what I meant when I was calling Bullshit.
it's getting worse and worse, these kids these days, I can't keep up with them, I haven't been to school in 15 years, now I feel like I got a teacher telling me what's what all over again, LOL
I like your advice, last few years have certainly been different for me, I got to that point where you realize just how fragile life is, and you confront your own mortality, and realize if you don't keep a sense of humor, your dead.
You also begin to see the difference between yourself, and the people who keep themselves on a high horse.
LOL, I literally don't have the energy to waste on that crap.
but I'll give him this, He sure knows how to empty out a garbage disposal, he had some good questions and points in there, but I have to pick through a lot of grime to find them, but that stuff smells like a septic tank, so I'm not try, Im done with Kidney stones.
Good Health to You.
April 9, 2013 at 11:41 PM #27230ReganMacNeilfan
Participant@granville the only thing I agree with beezle with is the Pazuzu is not in Dominion. Cause I asked where is he in this film. Cause to me Pazuzu statue MUST BE IN ALL MOVIES. To be part of the exorcist series. And the name of course. NOT A CHEESY KNOCK OFF as seen in Dominion. I don’t care what either of them say now. I was just agreeing really to shut them up. I think it worked Granville. 😉
April 9, 2013 at 11:50 PM #27231hatter76
ParticipantRegan I think you would have liked the fx shot I did of the Pazuzu statue getting blown up in Dominion
April 9, 2013 at 11:50 PM #27232granville1
Participanthatter76 said:
Granville you were around in the old days when I was actually active on this site, glad someone around here who knows how to talk like a grown up.
Thanks for your kind words.
LOL, I literally don't have the energy to waste on that crap.
It IS a time-waster, but once in a while we do have to stand up and refute the most egregiously stupid claims, eh 🙂
but I'll give him this, He sure knows how to empty out a garbage disposal, he had some good questions and points in there, but I have to pick through a lot of grime to find them, but that stuff smells like a septic tank, so I'm not try, Im done with Kidney stones.
Very good points, all.
Good Health to You.
Thanks – improved health to you, and a new abundance of stamina.
April 9, 2013 at 11:51 PM #27233ReganMacNeilfan
ParticipantDon’t worry I am a good person and I don’t like to troll sites. I say things to heart and try or not at all to lie. But if people want to give me crap Ivan easily ignore. 😉
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