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fatherbowdern
ParticipantBingo etrigan on Larson. If you want to see a “true devil” writhing in his chair, check out Larson’s reactions to questions about his income:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75TsvDIzIZc
Oh, and it’s amazing that he can’t remember if he was (or is!) a millionaire!
fatherbowdern
ParticipantBingo etrigan on Larson. If you want to see a “true devil” writhing in his chair, check out Larson’s reactions to questions about his income:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75TsvDIzIZc
Oh, and it’s amazing that he can’t remember if he was (or is!) a millionaire! Also, it’s nice to know that he thinks that 50% of population is possessed … what a scam! Loser!
fatherbowdern
ParticipantGood use of pointillism … I do see a face (and I still don’t see the “man in the moon”). It looks like a split between Dietz’s Pazuzu on the left and Fr. Karras on the right. Cool find!
fatherbowdern
ParticipantIf you were lucky enough the catch Penn and Teller’s Bullshit program on Showtime, they showed this “exorcist” to an asshole making money for the last 30 years off of the religious zealots compelled to believe what he told them … loser!
fatherbowdern
Participant“The only thing you could consider supernatural in the case was the welts on the boys skin. There is one point in the diary that isnβt played up tto much. The priests actually caught him scratching his own skin.”
Very interesting point that’s been overlooked and I never heard it before.
I’d love to analyze the diary objectively. I think that’s what Thomas B. Allen was supposed to do. However, to me, he only wrote a very shallow-thinking book followed by a 2000 Showtime Cable TV movie with an even crappier screenplay. His “objective” was to make money by having a new and improved and “true” version of The Exorcist. Tsk, tsk. He “ain’t” no Blatty.
Cap, do you know where the diary may be located on the net? Anyone?
fatherbowdern
Participantdsea, I don’t think I could tolerate sitting through Seytan after seeing small snippets of it. Talk about “unGodly!” π
fatherbowdern
ParticipantRyan, very cool find at your University (if only mine would offer these to the students!). I checked Amazon and it’s $35 bucks … let me know if it’s any good.
Fr. Bowdern
fatherbowdern
ParticipantGood points, dsea.
I know there is a Ronald Hunkeler that worked for NASA, but are we sure it’s “the” Ronald Hunkeler. I haven’t read anything that confirms this yet. If it is indeed “the” Hunkeler (on the flip side of the coin regarding his intelligence) Hunkeler could have “played out” a long and fake scenario of possession that he got “stuck” in once he was transferred to St. Louis. Of course, because his family was not Catholic, it doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have known about possession from his Ouija-board-wielding aunt that he so loved in St. Louis.
On religious individuals, I’m one and I’ve never tried to confirm my faith by believing in the painting that has St. Mary bleeding “real blood” from her eyes, as an example, is a miracle of faith … it’s as bogus as the Mary figure burned into the piece of toast that sold on eBay for a fortune.
As for the diary, you’re right, we’ll never know if the diary was really burned and it may be in archive. Of course, we’ll never know …
fatherbowdern
ParticipantGood point, Captain. IMDB has very low ratings for James Cameron’s Titanic, too. When I was part of the official Exorcist Movie site promoting TVYNS, I noticed a tremendous amount of the youth bashing the film for being too slow and not gory enough. The only scene grabber was the crucifix in Regan’s crotch.
It’s not to say that all younger people don’t get it, but as Ghetto and RATBOY already analyze, it’s a new generation now that has grown up on blood and gore and simple philosophies that if it’s not “fixed” in under 30 minutes, then it’s crap because the attention span is lacking. God help some of them that are “tied and bound” to watch Citizen Kane! π
fatherbowdern
ParticipantYeah, the top one is from the TFOG when the camera is running on Blair right after the head spin. It’s the scene where you can tell that the contact lenses are hurting Blair’s eyes because she keeps moving her eyeballs around and squeezing her eyes.
The second is definitely just another capture of the head spin.
fatherbowdern
Participantdsea, you’re not a dummy if you didn’t catch the “bullfrog” throat in the original film … you may have been “overting” your eyes after watching Regan being flung back and forth on the bed. Seytan is so funny and so poorly done! I’m sure they spent at least $100.00 on special effects! π
fatherbowdern
ParticipantIf you go back and read what Halloran said when he was interviewed, he said that he thought the boy was mimicking the Latin they (the priests) were using. Makes me think perhaps Ronald wanted some more attention to get out of school. Since there is no scientific evidence that the priests can point to, I guess it’s really up in the air as to whether Hunkeler was playing a trick. I believe that even Halloran (or Bowdern) said he knew of physical symptoms, like blushing, that could create the marks on the boy’s body that the priest (Bowdern) reported. I wish the diary had not been burned and that it could have been analyzed more thoroughly … even if it did contain only brief bullet points versus a full-flesh daily description.
Has anyone seen the diary online (in scans)? The only one I can find is a typed copy of one page and you can’t even read that one because of the resolution. I don’t even know if that page is real. Of course, the diary does not prove anything except what the priests believed was the real deal.
fatherbowdern
ParticipantHere’s the link for a “review” of Seytan. I laughed so hard at this person’s editorial. The pictures speak for themselves. In particular, check out the “electro-shock therapy” one with the rag “professionally stuffed” into poor little Gul’s mouth! Oh, we’ll have to call Captain Howdy, “Captain Lersen!”
Enjoy the laughs:
http://www.aycyas.com/seytan.htm
And, for extra fun, watch this one from youtube … I about peed my pants at time slot 1:19. Personally, it looks like a child’s ride and when the mother gets on top … oh, brother, it looks like some type of weirdo 70’s porn gone bad, really bad!
fatherbowdern
ParticipantHmmm … if this was a real deal, I think it would have sold (which it didn’t) and it would have went up on eBay for a higher price. Plus, the seller, has the “buy at your discretion” part that protects them if it’s not real. Not saying they are dishonest, but it’s hard to believe it is legit.
fatherbowdern
ParticipantCould be from any scene throughout the movie, but typically someone would have spotted it somewhere in the film already … we all have those “alert eyes.” It really could be a part of the film, and then again, it couldn’t. But, it only started out around 9 bucks on eBay and nobody bought it. What would disappoint me is if the crucifix had, “Made In China, 1993” imprinted or stamped on the back! π
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