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December 14, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19701
Scrupulous Conscience
ParticipantI also concur that this was never filmed. If so we would know about it. I think that “Paul” needs to stop inferring things from interviews with elderly men who probably only have killer stares when they’re eyeing the spread at Old Country Buffet.
December 14, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19699GhettoExorcist
ParticipantI seriously doubt it has been filmed. Your friend may be confusing the Father Merrin death scene in the Exorcist II. I have never read a copy of the screenplay that contained the scene and to think it was just something that was filmed at the spur of the moment is absurd. To add to the argument that it isn’t even the book. I think if you have the gift of something that can be interpreted instead of having to flat out tell someone, you have a better story device. It would be cheating the audience to show them such a scene and I’m sure Friedkin and Blatty knew that.
December 14, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19698PaulLancaster
ParticipantI’m pretty sure it was filmed, Scrupulous. If you watch any interview with Blatty / Friedkin, they’ve got the eyes of a killer when they talk about it. Why have such fire in their eyes unless they knew something? It’s a carefully guarded secret, even to this day.
December 15, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19709Justin
ParticipantActually, Renny Harlin made The Beginning. 😛
But, anyway, I think all these people suddenly coming and saying they saw the scene or think it was filmed are all the same person trying cause a debate/get a reaction out of the CaptainHowdy.com members. Just seems a little funny to me.
December 15, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19711Scrupulous Conscience
ParticipantNo, Paul Schrader made The Beginning. Renny Harlin remade it. Titles don’t count.
December 15, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19713PaulLancaster
ParticipantRenny Harlin is ten times the filmmaker Billy Blatty ever could be. Exorcist 3’s dialogue alone is barely near the level of Beginning’s: “Having orgies including goats doesn’t make them possessed, simply horny… and inventive” versus “Who should I blame- Phil Rizzuto?”? Come on, man!
December 15, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19714Scrupulous Conscience
ParticipantI agree that Blatty’s dialogue isn’t always the most believable, and that Beginning had some good lines. Also Renny harlin is a better film maker in a visual sense, but his movie still doesn’t achieve the greatness of Exorcist 3 Legion. There’s no Father Karras!
December 15, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19716PaulLancaster
ParticipantI remember reading online that there were plans for a brief cameo by Karras’ mother, pregnant with Damien in the denouement of Beginning but Legion? With Jason Miller as Coach Parseghian from Rudy on a cross? Hey, that reminds me: you *do* know that when he says, “Oh, Bill!” he’s actually looking off scene at Bill Blatty, making jest at the circumstances that led to the shooting of the exorcism scene, right?
December 15, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19717Scrupulous Conscience
ParticipantThere were never plans for Karras’s mother to be pregnant, where did you hear that?
December 15, 2007 at 11:59 PM #19718PaulLancaster
ParticipantIt was on a defunct horror website, although maybe the author was speculating. At any rate, the exorcism is single-handedly the best part of Exorcist 3. But are you insinuating that the Karras Factor is the difference between a good Exorcist film and a bad one?
April 19, 2008 at 11:59 PM #20225fatherbowdern
ParticipantI saw the original when it was released three times. I saw the first and all subsequent airings on national television (I believe it was on CBS). I owned the first Beta copy. I owned the first VHS copy. I owned the first LP-sized laser disc (I’m that old and if you don’t know what that is, you’ll have to look it up on Google). And, of course, I own all of the DVD versions. Name a version, and I will guarantee to you that I’ve seen it. And, this bullshit with claiming that Burke’s death scene was filmed is a crock of shit and I don’t care what country you watched it in … it does not exist! Period. I’ll ask Mark Kermode if anyone wants a “real” answer. But, folks it just didn’t take place.
April 20, 2008 at 11:59 PM #20230Jagged
ParticipantAh, the internet. Greatest mine of disinformation ever invented…
May 4, 2008 at 11:59 PM #20334SLAM234
ParticipantNightboi, Capt. Howdy and the rest are correct. No such scene was ever shot. Since the day the movie came out I have read every related book and most major articles regarding this film, including “the Story Behind The Exorcist”, and the original screenplays by Blatty. The scene was never shot, nor was it in the book. The very idea of it would have ruined the entire plot, which pivoted on the murder/mystery being revealed later. In the book the scene was described by the demon (using Burkes voice) to Karras,but it was well after the fact.
Somebody is confused about what they saw.May 8, 2008 at 11:59 PM #13152Nightboi
ParticipantIs there TRULY missing/alternate TV/HBO acclaimed footage of Burke Denning’s DEATH SCENE? Many people on IMDB remember the scene shown on TV or HBO back in the day, so I personally asked 5 different older people that I know who I remembered being fans of the film, and 4 of them SAID THE SAME THING without being coaxed. None of this MISSING /DELETED/ALTERNATE/ footage is mentioned on this website.
Why do so many people remember it, but there is no screenshots online or proof anywhere, nor is it mentioned on any DVD?
May 8, 2008 at 11:59 PM #20378fatherbowdern
ParticipantYeah, Slam! Right on target. I’m like you and I’ve done more research on this film than I care to admit … that scene does not exist.
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