Another deleted scene?

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    Help out my memory, folks.  I remember seeing years ago–on this site, I'm sure, but I can't find it now–a photo of a pensive looking Regan lying in bed staring up at the ceiling.  She's wearing the same plaid shirt she wears in the scene where she eavesdrops on Chris's phone call to her father.  I'm not thinking of the “funny noises” lobby card.  In the lobby card, she's wearing a different shirt, she's lying on her stomach with her chin in her hands, and her facial expression is amused.  In the photo I'm thinking of, she's lying on her back, her expression is very serious, and the covers are pulled up but you can see her shoulders and she's wearing the plaid shirt.

     

    I guess technically this wouldn't be from a separate deleted scene but rather a deleted part of the eavesdropping scene.  At the end of that scene, she walks dejectedly to her bed, sits down and starts to untie her sneaker (in the original version.  In the 2000 version, she just sits.  The sneaker part is deleted for some strange reason).  This photo I'm thinking of shows that she got into bed and perhaps started getting ideas from Captain Howdy.  Maybe Friedkin deleted it because it may have revealed too much to the viewer?  The following day, the desecration in the church is discovered…

     

    And maybe this is why the sneaker was deleted in the 2000 version?  I always thought the sneaker was a nice little detail.  It emphasized that she had given up on her father calling and was getting ready for bed.  Maybe I'm just being picky, but I thought it was a nice detail.

     

    Anyway, can anyone help me out with that photo?

    #25818
    Justin
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    This one?

    It's not part of a deleted scene but rather a sequence of photos taken during rehearsals for the exorcism.

    #25819

    Oh well…next time I'll just ask for the photo before theorizing…Where'd you find it?

    Still wish they hadn't deleted the sneaker though.

    #25820
    Sofia
    Participant

    I think those stills are from the documentary, 'Movies that Shook the World'.

     

    In the novel, that scene ends with Regan going downstairs to the basement and she remains there until time for bed. We don't know what she's doing there, probably playing with the ouija board. That's what I always thought and it's how I ended the scene in Sims 2.

    I really don't know why the sneaker was deleted along with Chris' dialogue, 'I've been on this f*cking line for twenty minutes!' but either way the cut from that scene to the next comes to quickly.

    #25821
    Justin
    Participant

    The stills are from the E! True Hollywood Story: Curse of The Exorcist documentary.

    I've never liked any of the little cuts in TVYNS, either. I assume Chris' line was cut because it suggest that Regan had learnt the bad language from her.

    #25826
    fatherbowdern
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    I agree and have written about the stupidity of editing that scene. It lost its oomph without Chris's last line. Another rationale is that Blatty/Friedkin wanted to tone down Chris's aggressive nature with her use of peppery language. (Had it been a man, such as Howard, I don't doubt the line would have stood the test of time.)

    Father B

    #25829
    Sofia
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    In the novel it's suggested that Regan picked up the bad language from Burke.

    Shirley as Chris of the novel didn't shout at the telephone operator like that. Ellen Burstyn portrays her with such a temperamental, agressive nature.

    #25830
    fatherbowdern
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    Sofia said:

    In the novel it's suggested that Regan picked up the bad language from Burke.

    Shirley as Chris of the novel didn't shout at the telephone operator like that. Ellen Burstyn portrays her with such a temperamental, agressive nature.

    Sof,

    Good information. I really need to read and listen to the novel again. When you mention “Shirley,” you are referring to MacLaine who could have acted out the Terms of Endearment, “Give my daughter the shot!,” type of performance with the line that Burstyn was supplied with in that scene. Perhaps you can do a Sims with Shirley in the doctor's office using that line or just add the voiceover in that actual scene …

    Father B

    #25832

    Sofia said:

    In the novel it's suggested that Regan picked up the bad language from Burke.

    Shirley as Chris of the novel didn't shout at the telephone operator like that. Ellen Burstyn portrays her with such a temperamental, agressive nature.

    I'm not so sure.  I reread much of the novel recently, and Chris's potty mouth seemed about the same as in the film.  The idea that Regan picked up the language from Burke is Chris's thought, ironically overlooking her own use of profanities.  The reader, I think, is expected to pick up on this parental filtering.  In fact, there are scenes in the novel where her language is worse than in the film, such as the scene where she confronts Sharon and the Engstroms about the crucifix.  In the film, when they deny putting it in Regan's room, Chris is just mute and stupefied.  In the novel, she loses it (“That f***ing cross didn't walk up there!”).

    #25835
    Sofia
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    ugotugotugotwhatiwant said:

    I’m not so sure.  I reread much of the novel recently, and Chris’s potty mouth seemed about the same as in the film.  The idea that Regan picked up the language from Burke is Chris’s thought, ironically overlooking her own use of profanities.  The reader, I think, is expected to pick up on this parental filtering.  In fact, there are scenes in the novel where her language is worse than in the film, such as the scene where she confronts Sharon and the Engstroms about the crucifix.  In the film, when they deny putting it in Regan’s room, Chris is just mute and stupefied.  In the novel, she loses it (“That f***ing cross didn’t walk up there!”).

     

     Oh, please, don’t even compare Chris of the novel to Chris of the film. As you probably know, she was based on a young Shirley MacLaine, and in the novel she’s a 32 year old, playful, goofy, charming, vibrant, sensitive young woman who doesn’t shout at telephone operators like a crazy person. Chris’ potty mouth certainly doesn’t seem about the same as in the film in Chapter 1 of the novel, and , yes, it is suggested that Regan picked up the bad language from Burke. Remember that Burke came over to Chris’ house all the time, there’s a scene in the first chapter in which Burke shouts ‘f*ck, cunting mind!’ and Chris tells him to hold it down because Regan’s in the basement and could hear him.

    “In the film, when they deny putting it in Regan’s room, Chris is just mute and stupefied.  In the novel, she loses it (“That f***ing cross didn’t walk up there!”).”

     Come on… at that point we can understand why she’d act like that. The thing is that Ellen’s portrayal of Chris starts off being agressive/ temperamental and remains like that throughout the movie. We don’t really get a chance to see more of her kind side like we can in the novel. They’re just similar in the sense that they’re both strong women.

    #25839

    Yikes.  Sorry!  I think you're being a little too hard on Ellen though.  After all, Blatty wrote her lines and Friedkin directed her.  Credit (or discredit, if you prefer) where it's due.

    #25842
    fatherbowdern
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    But then again, we never know how MacLaine would have played the part of Chris either. The lines and direction would not have changed and I can definitely see Shirley making Chris into the same kind of character. MacLaine is a strong and powerful actress … no likely she could have won the Academy Award that Burstyn was robbed of due to her lack of notoriety.

    Father B

    #25843
    Sofia
    Participant

    I wasn't trying to be hard on Ellen but she isn't Shirley MacLaine. The role of Chris was written especially for Shirley, I wish she had played her so much.

    #25845
    fatherbowdern
    Participant

    Sofia said:

    I wasn't trying to be hard on Ellen but she isn't Shirley MacLaine. The role of Chris was written especially for Shirley, I wish she had played her so much.

    Sof, certainly you are not being hard on Burstyn. You're just making an analysis. I see your point from a writer's standpoint. However, there is another route to think about:

    Did Blatty intentionally influence Burstyn (directly and via Friedkin) to mimic MacLaine? This is the put the shoe on the other foot analogy that sometimes doesn't cross our minds because we focus too directly on one particular piece of knowledge.

    Now, would you ever get any of them to admit that Shirley was the goal in any capacity? Hmmm …

    Father B 

    #25855
    Sofia
    Participant

    Did Blatty intentionally influence Burstyn (directly and via Friedkin) to mimic MacLaine?”

    I think I read something about this on Shirley's book, Dance While You Can! I'm going to read that Chapter again and let you know!

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